"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
02/15/2020 at 14:05 • Filed to: Spacelopnik, Spacex
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"Just Jeepin'" (macintux)
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By far the most detailed look I’ve seen at how Musk intends to conquer Mars.
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jimz
> Just Jeepin'
02/15/2020 at 14:15 |
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not to be too ad hominem, but that first guy seems to be your typical Elon worshiper who fancies himself an expert on any subject Elon is involved in. check his Twitter and it’s the usual “I know everything about space and about the auto industry, and of course in 5 years only SpaceX and Tesla will still exist. All of the dinosaurs will be dead.”
SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
> Just Jeepin'
02/15/2020 at 14:32 |
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FULL DISCLOSURE: I remain deeply cynical of all Musk’s over-promises.
With that out of the way, I always feel like all these “Musk to Mars” hype pieces first need to answer a simple question: How do you get these people to Mars without them being blind-on-arrival?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_impairment_due_to_intracranial_pressure
https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/universe/can-space-travel-make-you-blind.html
The health implications are well understood— and there is no solution. None of these proposals will make sense until we solve the basic health-safety issues.
You can tell, in all these areas, that Musk is a hypster-physics guy. Not a CS guy, not a doctor, not a stats guy, and definitely not an operations guy.
If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> Just Jeepin'
02/15/2020 at 14:56 |
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Ooooh buy the book Soonish by Zach & Kelly Weinersmith. They’ll teach you the economics of sp aceflight in an easy and humorous way.
McMike
> Just Jeepin'
02/15/2020 at 15:03 |
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I understand the desire to GO to Mars, but to live there? Mars will never ever, ever, ever be inhabitable.
Right?
ranwhenparked
> Just Jeepin'
02/15/2020 at 15:21 |
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“Conquer” seems a bit excessive. Fly there, walk around a bit, pick up a few samples, and come back home? Maybe. Set up a small manned r esearch station where the personnel spend more time maintaining the station than they do on actual research? There’s some chance.
But, there will never be an actual human civilization on another planet. Period.
Hell, there's only one country in the world that can even send people into orbit right now.
DipodomysDeserti
> McMike
02/15/2020 at 16:45 |
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Have you never seen Total Recall?
coqui70
> McMike
02/16/2020 at 00:43 |
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Any place can be made habitable by the application of technology. No one could live in Antartica for an extended period of time before the research stations were built .
The questions we need to answer are “C an it be done with a reasonable margin of safety? ” and “C an it be done in a self-sustaining way? ”.
Mars (or any other location in the Solar System besides Earth) is not able to support human life. Agriculture is not possible without significant work to develop hardened habitats , and the cost of delivering supplies on a regular basis would be astronomical (no pun intended ... actually yes it was ).
But possible? Yes, there are solutions to every challenge.
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McMike
> coqui70
02/16/2020 at 09:53 |
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Go? Yes.
Research and explore? Sure.
That’s what we do with Antarctica.
But MOVE there? The desire from non-scientist sci-fi watching civilians to be part of the colonization of Mars? That’s the part I don’t understand.
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McMike
> DipodomysDeserti
02/16/2020 at 09:54 |
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I have, and it looked
miserable.
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coqui70
> McMike
02/16/2020 at 17:31 |
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It’s likely people seeking fame or some sort of escape. It’s pretty much a one-way trip.